Legislature(2015 - 2016)CAPITOL 106

03/18/2016 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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08:03:45 AM Start
08:04:31 AM Confirmation Hearings(s):
08:05:24 AM State Board of Education and Early Development
08:29:17 AM Professional Teaching Practices Commission (ptpc)
08:33:04 AM University of Alaska Board of Regents
08:50:47 AM HB102
09:46:16 AM HB156
09:57:47 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Confirmation Hearings: TELECONFERENCED
- Board of Education & Early Development
- Professional Teaching Practices Commission
- University of Alaska Board of Regents
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 156 SCHOOL ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES; FED. LAW TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 102 RESIDENTIAL PSYCH CTR; EDUC. STDRS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 102(EDC) Out of Committee
        HB 102-RESIDENTIAL PSYCH CTR; EDUC. STDRS/FUNDS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:50:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[CHAIR KELLER announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 120,  "An Act  relating to  workers' compensation                                                               
and  transportation  network  companies;  and  providing  for  an                                                               
effective  date."]   [Before  the committee,  adopted  as a  work                                                               
draft on 2/1/16,  was the proposed committee  substitute (CS) for                                                               
HB 102, Version 29-LS0519\S, Glover, 2/10/16.]                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VAZQUEZ  moved to  adopt the  committee substitute                                                               
(CS) for  HB 102,  version 29-LS0519\Y,  Glover, 3/17/16,  as the                                                               
working document.   Without objection,  Version Y was  before the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:54:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANET  OGAN,  Staff,  Representative  Wes  Keller,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, directed attention to the  proposed CS, page 2, line                                                               
18, to paraphrase the language, which read:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     (a)  A school  district may  enter into  a contract  to                                                                    
     provide   payments   to   a   residential   psychiatric                                                                    
     treatment center  that provides an  educational program                                                                    
     for  a student  admitted  to the  center.  If a  school                                                                    
     district  and   a  residential   psychiatric  treatment                                                                    
     center are  unable to agree  on a proposed  contract on                                                                    
     or  before January  1 immediately  preceding the  first                                                                    
     school  year  for  which  the  residential  psychiatric                                                                    
     treatment center  is seeking funding, the  school board                                                                    
     where  a  student who  is  admitted  to the  center  is                                                                    
     enrolled shall  enter into a  contract with  the center                                                                    
     as provided in (b) of this section.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OGAN pointed  out that  the "shall"  contained in  the first                                                               
line of  this subsection,  was changed to  "may" and  the initial                                                               
date of  "April 1"  is now  "January 1"  to reflect  a previously                                                               
adopted amendment.  The final  change alters the sunset date, she                                                               
said, which was "2019" and is now proposed as "2020".                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:57:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:57 a.m. to 9:02 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:02:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER  announced  that public  testimony  was  previously                                                               
closed and stated intent to maintain that status.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:02:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  returned to  the language change,  page 2,                                                               
line 18,  the term "shall"  now proposed  as "may".   He directed                                                               
attention to the  subsequent line 24 that was not  changed to the                                                               
permissive term, but maintains the  directive "shall".  Given the                                                               
scenario of a Kenai student  attending the North Star facility in                                                               
Anchorage,  he questioned  how funds  would be  directed and  the                                                               
contract requirements that apply.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:04:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER paraphrased from page  2, lines [18-19] to emphasize                                                               
the intent.   He said, "A  district may enter into  a contract to                                                               
provide payments  to residential psychiatric  treatment centers."                                                               
A  conditional  statement is  provided,  he  said, and  continued                                                               
paraphrasing:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     If a district and  a [residential psychiatric treatment                                                                    
     center] are unable  to agree on a  proposed contract on                                                                    
     or before [January 1], then it becomes a mandate.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER maintained that this language makes it very clear.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON, continuing to clarify, said:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     On line 23,  '... the school board where  a student who                                                                    
     is admitted to  the center is enrolled ...'   ...  This                                                                    
     is saying that  whatever school board ...  a student is                                                                    
     enrolled   in   will   enter  a   contract   with   the                                                                    
     [residential  psychiatric  treatment center],  not  the                                                                    
     Anchorage school district.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER concurred.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  turned  to the  Kenai  Peninsula  Borough                                                               
School District  (KPBSD) letter, from Superintendent  Sean Dusek,                                                               
dated 3/11/16, to  the member, which lists a  number of concerns.                                                               
He  paraphrased   the  bullet  points,  which   read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The  funding  proration   is  ambiguous  regarding  the                                                                    
     funding types to be included  in the calculation, 9i.e.                                                                    
     does  this formula  include  local contribution,  grant                                                                    
     funding, the BSA, and intensive needs funding?).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     There  are no  measures  in place  to hold  residential                                                                    
     facilities   accountable   for  providing   a   quality                                                                    
     education.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     There is  no oversight  to hold  residential facilities                                                                    
     accountable  for  implementing  special  education  and                                                                    
     special education legal paperwork.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     There  is no  proof  that  residential facilities  will                                                                    
     adequately   coordinate  educational   activities  with                                                                    
     school  districts  and  provide an  education  that  is                                                                    
     aligned with local  schools in a manner  that is better                                                                    
     than what is currently offered.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     This bill will create  financial uncertainty for school                                                                    
     districts  due to  an inability  to predictably  budget                                                                    
     for these students.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     This  plan  may   open  the  door  for   out  of  state                                                                    
     residential  facilities to  charge significant  amounts                                                                    
     of  money to  local  school districts  for students  at                                                                    
     their facilities.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  said an  amendment would  be welcomed,  and pointed                                                               
out that funding is not stipulated in the bill.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  asked whether the bill  includes the local                                                               
contribution  of  the  base student  allocation  (BSA)  intensive                                                               
needs,  and  conjectured  that  perhaps   the  intent  is  for  a                                                               
combination of all three funding sources.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:09:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  SUSAN MCCAULLY,  PhD,  Interim  Commissioner, Department  of                                                               
Education and Early Development, said  the current Version Y does                                                               
not appear  to specify the  funding mechanism.  Because  it's not                                                               
prescriptive, negotiations would need to  be entered into to make                                                               
payment determinations.   She directed attention to  page 2, line                                                               
26, which read:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     (b)  A school  board  shall enter  into  a contract  to                                                                    
     provide   payments   to   a   residential   psychiatric                                                                    
     treatment center  that provides an  educational program                                                                    
     for a student ...                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:10:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON maintained  interest in  understanding the                                                               
source of  the funding that  will be  used to support  a student,                                                               
and  satisfy  the concerns  raised  in  the cited  KPBSD  letter,                                                               
especially  regarding  local  and  state  funding  contributions.                                                               
Additionally, the letter  indicates that a door may  be opened to                                                               
Outside  contractors,  and  the  bill  doesn't  appear  to  limit                                                               
treatment  to in-state  facilities.   A question,  he said,  that                                                               
needs to be answered.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:11:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER pointed  out that nothing in  charter school statute                                                               
specifies what is  local versus state contribution,  and said the                                                               
North Star center is not unlike a charter school.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:11:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON   said  ASD   has  requested   an  opinion                                                               
regarding  state educational  funds being  directed to  a private                                                               
facility,  and drew  attention to  the committee  packet and  the                                                               
Legal Services  memorandum, from Jean M.  Mischel, dated 3/17/16,                                                               
addressing  the subject:   Constitutionality  of  CSHB 102  (EDC)                                                               
(Work Order No. 29-LS0519\S).                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:12:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ stated opposition  to the bill, and said                                                               
it  appears to  have  been  created in  response  to a  situation                                                               
specific to ASD.  She  expressed interest in hearing further from                                                               
ASD  regarding  strides  and  inroads   that  have  been  handled                                                               
locally,  and  perhaps avoid  the  need  to enter  the  statutory                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:15:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND  directed  attention  to  the  committee                                                               
packet, and  the three  page ASD  letter, from  Superintendent Ed                                                               
Graff, dated 3/17/16, which describes  the extensive changes that                                                               
have  been implemented  in  an effort  to  remedy the  situation,                                                               
since HB 102 was first introduced [February 2015].                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:16:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  moved to  adopt  an  amendment he  called                                                               
"Y.1,"  [labeled 29-LS0519\S.5,  Glover  3/16/16],  on behalf  of                                                               
Representative   Colver,   which   read  as   follows   [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 28, following "district":                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
       Insert "during the student count period described                                                                        
     under AS 14.17.600"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER objected for discussion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:16:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:16 a.m. to 9:24 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:24:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  invited Representative Seaton to  move an amendment                                                               
that  aligned with  Version Y.    [The previous  motion to  adopt                                                               
Amendment "Y.1" was treated as withdrawn].                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:25:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON moved  to  adopt  Conceptual Amendment  1,                                                               
page 3, line 3, as follows:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 3, following "district":                                                                                      
       Insert "during the student count period described                                                                        
     under AS 14.17.600"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER objected for discussion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:26:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  removed his  objection, without  further objection,                                                               
Conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:26:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VAZQUEZ  commented on  the defining dates  that HB
102  has been  heard in  committee,  since the  session began  in                                                               
2015, and pointed  out that it may be  disingenuous for districts                                                               
to begin weighing in at this  late date.  Extensive testimony has                                                               
been heard and  the onsite visits to the North  Star facility, by                                                               
committee members, occurred during the  interim.  She opined that                                                               
the basic  educational requirements, of the  students who require                                                               
this type of facility, have been seriously neglected.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:28:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VAZQUEZ  moved  to  report CS  for  HB  102,  29-                                                               
LS0519\Y,  Glover  3/16/16, as  amended,  out  of committee  with                                                               
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:28:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER objected for discussion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:28:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VAZQUEZ  expressed  additional  concern  for  the                                                               
neglect of the  vulnerable students being served,  that this bill                                                               
addresses.  A  seamless situation needs to be  available for this                                                               
at-risk population, she stressed.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:31:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ agreed with  the at-risk population, and                                                               
recalled testimony received in committee  from parents.  However,                                                               
placing statute on the books that  may not be necessary is also a                                                               
concern.   Creating a statewide  remedy to  what appears to  be a                                                               
local problem  may be  using a  sledge hammer  when a  scalpel is                                                               
required, she opined.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:34:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON noted that the  bill has undergone a number                                                               
of changes,  and pointed  out the  recent comments  received from                                                               
ASD,  along  with  the  legal  opinion,  both  contained  in  the                                                               
committee packet.   The changes in the bill appear  to define the                                                               
facility as a  school, and the legal opinion states  that it will                                                               
be  unconstitutional for  educational dollars  to be  directed in                                                               
that manner.   The thrust  has gone beyond  working cooperatively                                                               
with a treatment  facility, and now describes that  facility as a                                                               
school.   Additionally, ASD indicates  that the issues  are being                                                               
addressed, negating the need for legislation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:37:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO referred to the  bill [Section 1, page 2,                                                               
lines 2-4], which read as follows:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     (3)  in  some   instances,  a  residential  psychiatric                                                                    
     treatment  center is  able  to  provide more  effective                                                                    
     educational  and  treatment  services  to  an  admitted                                                                    
     student  than  a school  district  can  provide to  the                                                                    
     student;                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TALERICO said  it appears  that the  students are                                                               
being sidelined during a power  play of administrators exerting a                                                               
tug of war.   He said the bill appears to be  moving in the right                                                               
direction in keeping the students as the priority.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:40:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND expressed  appreciation  for an  instate                                                               
facility,  however,   local  school  boards  may   be  negatively                                                               
impacted by passage of the bill.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:42:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER  interjected that  the  bill  will not  define  the                                                               
treatment center as a school.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:43:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER   removed  his   objection  and,   without  further                                                               
objection,  ordered CSHB  102(EDC),  as reported  from the  House                                                               
Education Standing Committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:44:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:44 a.m. to 9:46 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB102 CS vY.pdf HEDC 3/18/2016 8:00:00 AM
HB 102
HB102 support letter Caela.pdf HEDC 3/18/2016 8:00:00 AM
HB 102
HB102 Rebuttal of ASD Evelyn Alsup Norht StarDeficiencies 3_8.docx HEDC 3/18/2016 8:00:00 AM
HB 102
HB102 CS Work Draft S.pdf HEDC 3/18/2016 8:00:00 AM
HB 102
HB102 Letter of Concern Matanuska- Susitna School District.PDF HEDC 3/18/2016 8:00:00 AM
HB 102
HB102 Follow up with ASD Testimony.pdf HEDC 3/18/2016 8:00:00 AM
HB 102
HB 102 ASD Opposition House Education Committee Letter 031516.pdf HEDC 3/18/2016 8:00:00 AM
HB 102